Thank you, LV101, for courageously sharing a memory, however painful.
There will always be regrets.
greetings, old timers (in particular):.
of course, we don't share all views in common.
unless i'm mistaken, however, we older, former jws were decisive about what our "bible-trained consciences" would allow -- or not.
Thank you, LV101, for courageously sharing a memory, however painful.
There will always be regrets.
greetings, old timers (in particular):.
of course, we don't share all views in common.
unless i'm mistaken, however, we older, former jws were decisive about what our "bible-trained consciences" would allow -- or not.
Thanks, stillin and fulano:
Welcome, Aquarian and spouse of weirded-out wife.
Boy do I understand! As I had written earlier on another thread or two, in the 1950s and early-'60s, we were not JWs; but Mom was a back call and occasional "study" of Lillian Grobel, a very poor but devoted anointed sister.
My on-the-fringe mother's bed was our library away from the Carnegie down the street, in the University District. On it were scattered Astrology Today, Awake!, The Watchtower, The Good Earth and The Egg and I (both copies of which are here in my study), Arundel, Lost Horizon, ad infinitum.
To this day, what sticks most prominently with me were her magazines on astrology, particularly the ads for the Rosicrucians; since childhood, I have been drawn to the "other side":
greetings, old timers (in particular):.
of course, we don't share all views in common.
unless i'm mistaken, however, we older, former jws were decisive about what our "bible-trained consciences" would allow -- or not.
The above photo is from home, not a stock image.
Thanks, Dagney, so much for sharing your experience! In certain matters I may have been somewhat looser, but I can't remember!
Now, loose as a goose!
greetings, old timers (in particular):.
of course, we don't share all views in common.
unless i'm mistaken, however, we older, former jws were decisive about what our "bible-trained consciences" would allow -- or not.
I just had to reply to this topic. So poignant. -- Tara N Seals
There are many clouds in my sky. I am on the 9th . . .
greetings, old timers (in particular):.
of course, we don't share all views in common.
unless i'm mistaken, however, we older, former jws were decisive about what our "bible-trained consciences" would allow -- or not.
Our dear, dear sister, Tara!
Bless you for returning. How we have missed you!
Blessings and peace and love,
CoCo
greetings, old timers (in particular):.
of course, we don't share all views in common.
unless i'm mistaken, however, we older, former jws were decisive about what our "bible-trained consciences" would allow -- or not.
greetings, old timers (in particular):.
of course, we don't share all views in common.
unless i'm mistaken, however, we older, former jws were decisive about what our "bible-trained consciences" would allow -- or not.
Greetings, Old Timers (in particular):
Of course, we don't share all views in common. Unless I'm mistaken, however, we older, former JWs were decisive about what our "Bible-trained consciences" would allow -- or not. Seems the younger generation don't get how stringent we were and the difficulty of letting go of our old, super-strict ways.
I remarked in my thread about what the Society may or may not have foreseen in officially sanctioning the Internet that everything seems so different now. I can't even come up with words to express how changed my once beloved faith has become.
I was so super sensitive in my godly conscience that I swore off the "demonized" song linked below (I've changed my tune since I returned to my pagan roots):
having listened to the two gb helpers (and cedar's interspersed commentary), i was somewhat taken aback at the comments on the widespread availability of smartphones and such at bethel.
of course, in the congregations, too.
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They knew this and developed their web site content in an attempt to control and direct what people were doing with those phones and tablets, but they were never going to be completely successful at that. -- LisaRose
Thank you for so clearly stating the obviously inevitable.
having listened to the two gb helpers (and cedar's interspersed commentary), i was somewhat taken aback at the comments on the widespread availability of smartphones and such at bethel.
of course, in the congregations, too.
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To reiterate a point earlier made:
In the past, we faithful Witnesses were admonished to give up, destroy, sacrifice anything or anybody that stood between us and our relationship with Jehovah. As a musician, it was difficult to give up Christmas as well as many pop songs (of all songs, some by The 5th Dimension); I left the music conservatory that had become my new home and haven; I sacrificed friends and family so as not to be divided between my loyalties. Ardent JW friends and families did Fahrenheit 451. Burning books -- I couldn't.
I must have been way over the top to have not let anything interpose itself between me and my God.
having listened to the two gb helpers (and cedar's interspersed commentary), i was somewhat taken aback at the comments on the widespread availability of smartphones and such at bethel.
of course, in the congregations, too.
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Thank you, Bobby and sir82, for sharing your thoughts.
Some things there that I hadn't considered. I must admit that I'm somewhat influenced by having been at Bethel when there had been a tsunami of sexual activity. The aftermath -- the verbal tirades by NHK -- were horrifying. Such a different spirit from what the video portrays.
THANKS!